Marvels combat is horrible now

Just finished watching the new Fantastic 4 movie and while the story and acting was really good the combat... God help me the combat in these latest marvel movies are so bad...

The thing did literally nothing except fall on Galactus... Mr. Fantastic did nothing "involving combat" Sue storm screamed and pushed Galactus into the CGI MacGuffin.

All these cool powers, a multi billion dollar corporation, some amazing actors and they can't make a decent choreographed fight scene...

They never combined there powers together for a cool attack or had a cool combo. It was just most boring use of powers in the most generic way possible.

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SomewhereChillin2025-10-01 15:19

Idk the combat was peak in Thunderbolts and Daredevil born again etc

Aggravating_Cup23062025-10-01 15:23

Yeah thunderbolts was good but specifically the first encounter

But OP is right about f4. Nothing memorable in choreography even though i just watched it yesterday

At best i was impressed by johnny's movement but nothing more. Marvel desperately needs to lock in with another civil war like scene for doomsday

SomewhereChillin2025-10-01 15:26

Prepare for Spider-Man to have great fighting etc due to Destin D C. Working on it he did Shang Chi and uses Jackie Chans team

The F4 don’t really fight even in the comics so it made sense to me but I knew that going in so it didn’t bug me as much

Edit:

Also how the hell would you hand to hand fight silver surfer or Galactus??

AdmiralCharleston2025-10-01 15:40

If you just ignore the silver surfer space chase which was peak

AdmiralCharleston2025-10-01 15:39

Id disagree about daredevil. There was good stuff but there was also the overly cutty apartment fight in episode 2 or the borderline terrible oner in the first episode

SomewhereChillin2025-10-01 15:45

To each his own but that was universally applauded combat so ig you can’t please everyone personally though I think the MCU is in a good place moving back towards practical fights and stunts with some of the new films and shows otw

AdmiralCharleston2025-10-01 15:57

It was not universally applauded lmao. Plenty of people called out the Janky cg and awkward hidden cuts in the oner and the overly cutty nature of the apartment fight

SomewhereChillin2025-10-01 16:01

Looking forward to seeing your first film man you seem like you’ve got it all worked out! Have ac great week and good luck

AdmiralCharleston2025-10-01 16:44

I've got a masters in experimental filmmaking actually my guy. Funny how people say you can only criticise something if you're qualified but you don't have to be qualified to praise something huh?

There are plenty of people calling out issues with those scenes that are qualified to talk about them

SomewhereChillin2025-10-01 16:53

Not sure how you took me saying “good luck” the wrong way

If you’re who you say you are then I 100% meant what I said

Looking forward to your first film and how you show Marvel how to do it the right way! 😂

AdmiralCharleston2025-10-01 17:27

Im gonna give you the benefit of the doubt that you weren't trying to be condescending, but that's how it came off

CyberKitten052025-10-01 15:20

Cap 4, for all its huge glaring flaws, actually had really good Fight scenes imo (except the first one with the serpent society, no idea what was up with it)

MiCK_GaSM2025-10-01 15:20

Yeah, it was a pretty lousy movie centered on a team of goofs that they did a terrible job of making impressive to people that don't give two shits about f4.

AdmiralCharleston2025-10-01 15:42

You sound fun

MiCK_GaSM2025-10-01 16:58

I'm honest. You said as much without being as blunt. Cope or don't, none of it matters

AdmiralCharleston2025-10-01 17:28

I mean your criticism is just bad

MiCK_GaSM2025-10-01 17:58

I think you mean my opinion doesn't align with yours, which is fine, opinions are subjective. If we wanted to hash facts we wouldn't be in a thread started with someone's opinions about the state of action scenes in the MCU.

inmartinwetrust2025-10-01 15:22

Yea F4's "action" was almost non existent. Galactus stretching Reed is so dumb too like "omg the one thing I'm good at is hurting me" truly dumb decisions. all they had to do was watching The Incredibles and do that....

Recently Thunderbolts had great action, Shang chi also has really great fights.

AdmiralCharleston2025-10-01 15:43

The space chase was one of the best action scenes in the whole mcu. You not liking how reeds powers were adapted is making you ignore the action that existed in it

inmartinwetrust2025-10-01 17:45

Is that the scene where everyone but Reed are sitting in a cockpit not using powers?

Jk, that's definitely the best scene in the movie I'll give you that

moonknightcrawler2025-10-01 15:23

Marvel finally decides to switch up the formula with Thunderbolts and Fantastic Four, giving us more character driven stories than nonsense action and fan service moments, and people freak the fuck out. They’re allowed to do things differently.

The Fantastic Four are a family first, explorers second, and superheroes third. Glad they got someone who clearly understood the characters instead of giving us another horribly adapted shitty action movie version of the F4

NoLeadership22812025-10-01 16:24

Also I’m never distracted by the lack of action sequences cuz it prioritizes characters and their relationships, and the story never felt the need to force more action sequences just to keep audience awake, I feel more invested in seen the entire planet bands together to build the bridges for teleportation and Reed have to constantly find solutions to solve the obstacles rather than just action sequences, this movie is intentionally structured more like a disaster movie, I’m perfectly engaged throughout, also we got that godly space sequence, so to say there’s no exciting action sequences is just borderline insanity

TelenorTheGNP2025-10-01 15:24

It's a family of problem solvers, not fighters. Know whom you're complaining about.

SomewhereChillin2025-10-01 15:31

Yea my thoughts exactly

Flying_Mohawk2772025-10-01 15:25

MCU has always been very inconsistent with its choreography… this is nothing new really.

TheLiquor19462025-10-01 15:26

Well the fantastic four are not "fighters" but explorers so if you expect more action you might be watching the wrong teamup movie.

AdmiralCharleston2025-10-01 15:29

You say that like it didn't have some of the best action scenes in the mcu as a whole. We know that a fight with red ghost got cut, but the whole point of this universe is that until galactus the 4 were ridiculously more powerful than everyone they had fought and ended up using their fame and influence to bring the world together so they didn't have to fight.

Neither silver surfer or galactus are characters that they can fight in the way you're describing

Holiday-Doughnut-3642025-10-01 15:37

Exactly..Reed literally "baby proofed" the universe after Franklin was born..there's the balcony scene where Susan jokes about that with Reed as they watch all the cop cars land on each villains "lair" as a proactive approach.

muftak32025-10-01 15:42

At least he just didn't stand there for 10 minutes looking at the Ultimate Nullifier and and turn around and leave.

dyrannn2025-10-01 15:49

Talk about the first Galactus scene and the black hole surfing scene too

RihoSucks2025-10-01 16:40

What were they supposed to do? Ninja kick galactus? 🤣

Shadowarcher62025-10-01 20:45

They actually switched up the marvel formula

It was a fucking awesome movie lol

Grayx_28872025-10-02 06:32

So, the action sequences in Fantastic Four: First Steps suck. But the story is alright.

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